What role do palliative care and ethics play in the healthcare system? How does that translate to the care we receive during critical illnesses? These are the topics Dr. Andi Chatburn explores with me in this episode of Leading with Health.

Dr. Andi Chatburn is a Palliative Care physician in Spokane, Washington and serves as the Regional Director of Ethics for Providence St. Joseph Health in Eastern Washington and Western Montana. Dr. Chatburn creates opportunities for healthcare professionals of every discipline to grow in their knowledge of bioethics and apply this at the bedside. She encourages all to explore questions of “how we ought to be with one another in community” as we seek to address the challenges of promoting health for a better world.

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Highlights include:

6:00 – AC: “We’re just trying to listen, to hold their story and get to know who they are as a person and match that with what’s going on with their body.”

9:08 – AC: “Why isn’t whole-person care a part of everything that medicine does?”

12:08 – AC: “Reciprocity, which is caring for others the way we would want to be cared for if we were in their shoes, requires us to listen to their stories.”

12:43 – JM: “Listening is such a part of the healing because so many people don’t get heard.”

24:17 – AC: “We can’t approach fear with facts; we have to approach fear with love.”

29:40 – JM: “Women are taught not to talk about the times we haven’t been safe, but we are expected to go through our life as if we are feeling safe. This shows up very poignantly in healthcare situations where you don’t know what that woman has gone through and why she may or may not trust you. Or why she may feel she has to appease you.”

34:02 – AC: “We belong to one another and we need to remember that in medicine.”

35:55 – AC: “We’re not immortal but we pretend we are as physicians.”

Leading with Health is hosted by Jennifer Michelle. Jennifer has a Master’s in Public Health and Epidemiology and is a certified EMT. As President of Michelle Marketing Strategies, Jennifer specializes in healthcare marketing. She is on a mission to help women find their voice so they can create a stronger, more responsive healthcare system.